tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post1973704568507864330..comments2024-03-17T08:27:53.658-05:00Comments on Stonekettle Station: Bang Bang Crazy, Part 12: Excuses, ExcusesJim Wrighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11259550121437562338noreply@blogger.comBlogger105125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-73257886098431703692018-05-30T13:49:27.719-05:002018-05-30T13:49:27.719-05:00Thank you for something I rarely see in the social...Thank you for something I rarely see in the social media gun debate: <br />Common sense Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-13602377830373681312018-03-20T19:03:27.672-05:002018-03-20T19:03:27.672-05:00Have you read this article in Scientific American?...Have you read this article in Scientific American?<br />https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/why-are-white-men-stockpiling-guns/Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473311771939167712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-27641417268042777382018-03-16T10:04:20.204-05:002018-03-16T10:04:20.204-05:00“Or, to put it succintly, if anything bad happens ...“Or, to put it succintly, if anything bad happens to you, it's YOUR fault!“<br /><br />I, and this post, are discussing guns, not “anything”.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-46143573267279080322018-03-16T10:00:35.483-05:002018-03-16T10:00:35.483-05:00“what would that person be denying?” They are den...“what would that person be denying?” They are denying responsibility. <br /><br />“Suggestions...” The fact that you have a gun accommodates the lawful exercise of second amendment rights. The 2nd amendment does not address the responsible ownership of guns.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-58350595847761498072018-03-15T15:45:30.093-05:002018-03-15T15:45:30.093-05:00It's insulting to anyone who has fallen victim...It's insulting to anyone who has fallen victim to gun crimes for it to be categorized as an "accident". I think more people need to speak up about their outrage, no excuses, because guns are not a joke, and they need to be more heavily regulated. Even with my <a href="http://www.thedigitalbridges.com/how-to-prevent-a-cracked-phone-screen/" rel="nofollow">cracked phone</a>, I can't be stopped from speaking my mind, and expressing my anger in this topic. Responsibility needs to be taken and acknowledged.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16949982896628690168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-71692420375018341852018-03-15T07:04:01.528-05:002018-03-15T07:04:01.528-05:00Actually, two individuals 'accidentally' f...Actually, two individuals 'accidentally' fired guns in schools yesterday. One of the individuals was a police officer.<br /><br />Accidents?<br /><br />CS in FlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-32431281637429861842018-03-14T10:53:22.590-05:002018-03-14T10:53:22.590-05:00Still lurking so won't register, but spot on:
...Still lurking so won't register, but spot on:<br /><br /><a href="https://nypost.com/2018/03/14/teacher-accidentally-fires-gun-in-class-while-teaching-about-gun-safety/" rel="nofollow">NY Post Teacher accidentally fires while teaching gun safety</a><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-89265251411807747832018-03-13T19:58:57.566-05:002018-03-13T19:58:57.566-05:00"Jerry CritterMarch 13, 2018 at 10:12 AM
Sor..."Jerry CritterMarch 13, 2018 at 10:12 AM<br /><br />Sorry, but in my opinion, “reasonable precautions” is another term for “plausible deniability”."<br /><br />What would that person be denying? That they were lawfully exercising a constitutional right?<br /><br />Do you have any suggestions then? Suggestions that accommodate the lawful exercise of second amendment rights? <br /><br />Say you were transporting a rifle, shotgun, and a handgun to an out of state target competition that involved multiple days of travel. I'll give you discretely removing the weapons into the hotel room overnight as a reasonable measure that would keep the weapons out of the unattended car overnight. <br /><br />Cordillera Cowboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02027747538068616641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-8548419358571950572018-03-13T19:08:13.838-05:002018-03-13T19:08:13.838-05:00Or, to put it succintly, if anything bad happens t...Or, to put it succintly, if anything bad happens to you, it's YOUR fault!<br /><br />Get mugged? Your fault. Get cancer? Your fault. Meteor strikes your home? Also your fault.<br /><br />After all, your bar of culpability is at the "if it happens it's your fault" and disregards any and all measures taken to mitigate or prevent such (because you know, sometimes, even with the best of preparations to prevent shit, shit still happens)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-44165492727882355772018-03-13T10:12:47.197-05:002018-03-13T10:12:47.197-05:00Sorry, but in my opinion, “reasonable precautions”...Sorry, but in my opinion, “reasonable precautions” is another term for “plausible deniability”.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-38705307962993292522018-03-13T08:32:39.202-05:002018-03-13T08:32:39.202-05:00I'm not talking about 100%. I'm talking r...I'm not talking about 100%. I'm talking reasonable precaution. Neither are most homes 100% secure. But to exercise the right, you take reasonable precautions. <br /><br />If I'm transporting a gun, I'm doing so in accordance with the laws of the state I'm in. I don't advertise the presence of the gun. I park in an area where the vehicle is less likely to be broken into or stolen. Reasonable precautions. Cordillera Cowboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02027747538068616641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-17312142429724412472018-03-13T01:02:49.131-05:002018-03-13T01:02:49.131-05:00You are assuming that a locked car is secure. It i...You are assuming that a locked car is secure. It is not!Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-6022341337259979132018-03-12T20:16:04.390-05:002018-03-12T20:16:04.390-05:00"Jerry CritterMarch 12, 2018 at 2:03 PM
Even...<br /><br /><br />"Jerry CritterMarch 12, 2018 at 2:03 PM<br /><br />Even if your unloaded gun is stolen from your locked car, you are too stupid to own a gun!"<br /><br />I would disagree with Jerry Critter. There are reasonable precautions. Have a look at Jim's Bang Bang Sanity article. In his proposals, there is room for weapons accessible for home and personal defense, as well as other reasonable precautions for exercising the right. <br /><br />I've transported weapons for range firing, hunting, and historical reenacting. Often, the only secure place, other than on your person, when the weapons were not in use is a locked car. <br /><br />State and local laws differ in how to legally store a weapon in a car, so folks have to pay attention. <br />Cordillera Cowboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02027747538068616641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-10577235506393535652018-03-12T14:03:20.228-05:002018-03-12T14:03:20.228-05:00Even if your unloaded gun is stolen from your lock...Even if your unloaded gun is stolen from your locked car, you are too stupid to own a gun!Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-5371964852278610622018-03-12T11:11:33.239-05:002018-03-12T11:11:33.239-05:00Agreed. Totally. I live in a state that has excuse...Agreed. Totally. I live in a state that has excused "accidental" shootings, where you can leave a loaded gun in an unlocked car and then cry foul when it's stolen. If you're too stupid to treat a gun as always being loaded, and too stupid to keep it secured, you're too stupid to own a gun.Amyhttps://scatteredthoughts1974.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-2291489864302423062018-03-10T19:00:06.799-06:002018-03-10T19:00:06.799-06:00Talonts - as a (British combat veteran) mate of mi...Talonts - as a (British combat veteran) mate of mine put it in a recent (pro-gun control) post "A Beirut unload rarely hits anything; if you want to kill someone or lots of people use it on semi auto"<br /><br />This is pretty much my reply whenever someone brings up the 'well actually it's not an assault rifle..." Full auto is useful in bursts for covering fire, but if you're really planning to up the body count, rapid aimed semi-auto is the way to go. You'd think any ammosexual would know that...<br /><br />(also - original assault rifle's selectable fire modes: full or semi auto. M16A2: semi-auto or 3 round burst. If the latter is an assault rifle, then the definition of "assault rifle" has changed very slightly from its first incarnation. If language could change to accomodate the M16A2, it can change again to accommodate the popular vernacular (even if it's just 'semi-automatic assault rifle'.)<br /> Boothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368149736193964379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-71860145847387043962018-03-10T07:41:15.886-06:002018-03-10T07:41:15.886-06:00Once again - excellent article. Logical and well s...Once again - excellent article. Logical and well stated. Thank you for being a voice of sanity in an ever increasing deluge of desperately hysterical nonsense from those brainwashed by the NRA.Cathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01048083773255241000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-16413244812280766192018-03-09T20:03:14.340-06:002018-03-09T20:03:14.340-06:00Thank you Jim, for also bringing up your Bang Bang...Thank you Jim, for also bringing up your Bang Bang Sanity article, if even in a link at the bottom. I've shared that a few times. The most frequent objection to the proposals there seems to hinge on accidents. So many people can't seem to accept that the person responsible for the machine, is also responsible for any damage or injury caused with that machine. <br /><br />As another commenter has already mentioned, failure to accept a no accidents mindset, gives the lie to our assertion to the anti-gunners that guns don't kill people, people kill people. I do find it strange that folks who advocate loudly for personal responsibility seem to backtrack on that when it comes to taking full responsibility, including for accidents, with their own firearm.<br /><br />There are three actions our government can take that I could support. That is because they don't violate the 2nd amendment, or the several protections of due process in the constitution. <br /><br />1. The NRA safety rules as federal law, as you proposed in Bang Bang Sanity.<br /><br />2. Well crafted gun violence restraining orders enacted at the stare or local level.<br /><br />3. Raising the age limit for gun ownership to 21. I'm still on the fence a bit on this one, but the age restriction on handguns has stood for years without any constitutional challenge. <br />Cordillera Cowboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02027747538068616641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-20067394147977013692018-03-09T20:00:59.367-06:002018-03-09T20:00:59.367-06:00I didn't know of your blog until I saw it in a...I didn't know of your blog until I saw it in a FB comment tonight. Thank heavens you exist and write with clarity, humor, emotion, and morality. I'm now officially a rabid fan. kcidybomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04505066996125534279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-5919215778732505312018-03-09T19:00:46.980-06:002018-03-09T19:00:46.980-06:00In which case presumably gun-owners need a voice i...In which case presumably gun-owners need a voice in the first place. It might be interesting to see what happened if there was one.Meg Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315024973849851898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-61411533419226855422018-03-09T16:57:10.123-06:002018-03-09T16:57:10.123-06:00And all we want are responsible gun laws. Loved yo...And all we want are responsible gun laws. Loved your piece and wonder what you think about gun owners being licenced and insured? I don't own a gun but don't have any reason to oppose with the exception of military grade weapons.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09584435284952093151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-44387783804066062622018-03-09T14:27:19.868-06:002018-03-09T14:27:19.868-06:00I'm becoming convinced that armaphile works be...I'm becoming convinced that armaphile works better in conversation than ammosexual. The gun fetishists can figure out what ammosexual means but most of them cannot fathom dense verbiage like armaphile. The longer it takes them to work out whether they are being insulted or not, the longer it takes them to hit reply and respond. It is that gap in time where enlightenment might occur. Might. <br /><br />Of course, I remember when you could be a gunnut and be proud of that fact. Now they get mad at even the hint that their fannish behavior towards weapons isn't the most logical response to all problems. They've lost all humor and all sense of proportion. Proof that they are actually too unstable to be trusted with guns in the first place.R. Anthony Steelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02360569752081330836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-74915414667373599832018-03-09T11:44:23.443-06:002018-03-09T11:44:23.443-06:00Yes to this. My grandfather taught me to shoot at...Yes to this. My grandfather taught me to shoot at the age of 6 ('cause, Texas) and he taught me three rules:<br /><br />1) A gun is always loaded,<br />2) A gun is always loaded until you check it yourself, even if the other person checked it in front of you.<br />3) Never point a gun at something you don't want to destroy.<br /><br />I've always presumed that #3 applied to me as well.BrianWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00381316332364595094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-27274594358642576122018-03-09T10:34:46.650-06:002018-03-09T10:34:46.650-06:00The NRA may offer membership and tout itself as a ...The NRA may offer membership and tout itself as a lobby for gun owners, but in reality it is a lobby for gun manufacturers.0nehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14302849895961640213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-40226425562873694282018-03-09T10:03:56.573-06:002018-03-09T10:03:56.573-06:00This has been the mantra in public safety for a co...This has been the mantra in public safety for a couple of decades: if it's predictable it's preventable. If it's preventable it's not an accident. No where is this more applicable than firearm handling. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04529530317087731178noreply@blogger.com