tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post5871644946281616219..comments2024-03-20T12:34:55.100-05:00Comments on Stonekettle Station: Glenn Beck Killed My Father-In-LawJim Wrighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11259550121437562338noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-87337809402184582562010-05-28T21:12:32.605-05:002010-05-28T21:12:32.605-05:00Attention guy in Phoenix, AZ:
I'm curious, yo...Attention guy in Phoenix, AZ:<br /><br />I'm curious, you visit this post on pretty much a daily basis - what is it that you expect to change?<br /><br />Just curious.//Jim WrightJim Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11259550121437562338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-59967903997824863822010-03-23T18:39:05.827-05:002010-03-23T18:39:05.827-05:00Hey man long time no see. I totally empathize with...Hey man long time no see. I totally empathize with you and your family. This past summer my father died due to cancer. <br /><br />The treatment was very costly, with no insurance we had to rely on family friends to help out. Lucky for us they decided to forgive the debt, if they hadn’t we would have had a serious financial crisis on our hands. <br /><br />The doctors were able to diagnose his cancer early on but due to his diabetes his body could only take so much chemo, radiation and surgery. Eventually it was the relapse that did him in.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11689543548254798437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-52128293827439406912010-03-22T20:51:36.005-05:002010-03-22T20:51:36.005-05:00Jim,
Another long-time lurker, here.
I think th...Jim,<br /><br />Another long-time lurker, here. <br /><br />I think that opportunity to be there with/for dying family is an entitlement denied to too many people. <br /><br />I empathise completely, down to the last drop of concentrated rage.<br /><br />As regards why people reinforce false (political) views when presented with contradictory information - there is a study out there. I can't find it, but it's a smallish fraction of people (~10% of subjects) that feel more strongly about their original belief when exposed to information that would show it to be wrong.<br /><br />What information made you blow that fuse varies from person to person. Interestingly, is completely independent of religious orientation.Patnesshttp://blog.seawolf.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-79043830535429532422010-03-19T09:56:27.158-05:002010-03-19T09:56:27.158-05:00Did you see that Jon Stewart taunted Beck as well ...Did you see that Jon Stewart taunted Beck as well last night? I think he's a Stonekettle reader... :) (Stewart, not Beck)<br /><br />http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-march-18-2010/conservative-libertarian<br /><br />clizois: A Glenn Beck take on your word verification word:<br /><br /><em>Look at this on my chalkboard, "Clizois" -- what does that look like to you? I see Clitoris. I see Zenu. It's clear Google's liberal, progressive agenda is to have sex with aliens! They make you type it in just to voice your opinion!</em>Shawn Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15186686711412505957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-22469007625317626572010-03-18T08:54:15.974-05:002010-03-18T08:54:15.974-05:00It's a freaking cult.
So sorry about your Fat...It's a freaking cult.<br /><br />So sorry about your Father-in-law. My Dad passed away from pancreatic cancer a few years ago. Thank goodness he was at least insured and received quality care. <br /><br />The irony escapes so many people because they're allowing their emotional buttons to be pushed - while their loved ones go un-covered. I am one such uninsured person and, like Maria, my Mom watches FOX religiously and doesn't get it. <br /><br />Congratulations for having the guts to say what's on a lot of our minds!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-62931349196968738342010-03-18T08:38:47.742-05:002010-03-18T08:38:47.742-05:00I'm sorry for your father and your family.
T...I'm sorry for your father and your family. <br /><br />Thank you for writing this. I hope your message spreads far and wide.<br /><br />I was one of those uninsured for a mere 5 months and I was freaked out the entire time. A serious illness would have bankrupted me and taken away everything I've worked so hard for my entire life. My problem was a non-existent "pre-existing condition" manufactured by a doctor who liked to send patients for cardiology tests with her cardiologist buddy. When my husband lost his job, we lost our insurance. The only way I could get my insurance back was by signing waivers to say those "conditions" were not covered. I consider myself lucky. Now the task is to get those waivers removed.<br /><br />The irony in my life? My mother is a FoxNews devotee who objects to everything Obama does -- while two of her three children go without healthcare.<br /><br />I wish your father a quick end to his pain and suffering.<br /><br />Keep spreading the word of reason to those who will listen.Mariahttp://www.aneclecticmind.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-31582567563214807192010-03-17T21:32:15.038-05:002010-03-17T21:32:15.038-05:00They must have really small peckers...
Yes, I bel...<i>They must have really small peckers...</i><br /><br />Yes, I believe that is the source of <i>all</i> of their issues, actually.Jim Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11259550121437562338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-83288204136613135242010-03-17T21:30:02.533-05:002010-03-17T21:30:02.533-05:00Tom, I figured there was no point.
See, just like...Tom, I figured there was no point.<br /><br />See, just like with Palin, if you show beyond question that Beck, or Limbaugh, or Palin is wrong - that their followers are being duped beyond question - then you are an elitist snob and you're <i>still</i> wrong.<br /><br />It's a cult. The dogma of Glenn Beck. You can't deprogram them. The best you can hope for is that they'll become so inflamed that they eat their own children and then turn on each other.Jim Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11259550121437562338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-42034391949757513922010-03-17T20:20:08.381-05:002010-03-17T20:20:08.381-05:00Jim, except for the title, you actually got severa...Jim, except for the title, you actually got several hundred words put together that a "Conservative" could have read, and maybe even understood and sympathized with, without them thinking "This guy's a damn Librul, and I ain't gonna read no more of this!"<br /><br />Then you had to go and rub their noses in it. (Bravo!) But that's no way to convince a Teabagger that his tea is really dirt, and his bag's got a hole in it.<br /><br />Rubbing their noses in their own stupidity, smacking them upside the head with a Clue-x-4, tonging them with the Shovel of Doom just confuses them even more. Damn, how do we get these people to see the complete contradictions that Beck spouts in the same sentence, much less between the start and finish of his screeds, or of what he said last week.<br /><br />How is it that you can see how wrong he is, how badly and baldly he lies, how much fiction and misrepresentation he spouts, and I can, and all the commenters on this post can, but the ones he plays to can't, or won't? How can this be?<br /><br />How can we combat this shit? Rational explanation doesn't work. Screaming the truth from the rooftops doesn't work. Pointing out where he's wrong, where he lies, how he misrepresents the truth doesn't work. What will work?<br /><br />Damn if I know!<br /><br />But I'm glad you keep pointing out the Beck-tards, and the Rush-holes, and the Pali-diots.<br /><br />Damn, I get so frustrated, sometimes...<br /><br /><br />pnoidde: abbrev. of "paranoid idiots"Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00273212686600552771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-78460287048790605282010-03-17T13:57:13.831-05:002010-03-17T13:57:13.831-05:00Sorry to hear about your father-in-law. You have ...Sorry to hear about your father-in-law. You have my sympathies.<br /><br />Regarding why Beck is successful, may I suggest <a href="http://chris-gerrib.livejournal.com/234443.html" rel="nofollow">The Law of Totem Poles</a>Chris Gerribhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09484367221527860100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-59818690035131734912010-03-17T13:53:18.337-05:002010-03-17T13:53:18.337-05:00Great post, Jim.
But "wonton rape"? The...Great post, Jim.<br /><br />But "wonton rape"? They must have really small peckers to rape those little dumplings in their soup. :DJohn the Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03467337009577733553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-89904025685184470222010-03-17T12:39:40.995-05:002010-03-17T12:39:40.995-05:00Well sorry to hear about the old man. Perhaps time...Well sorry to hear about the old man. Perhaps time to quit smoking should be in my future.<br /><br />The post though, wonderful, somehow you always seems to take my thoughts about things and eloquently blog about them. You do have a writers gift. Keep on writing and get the word out. <br /><br />bacon: meat product that CAN induce sexual orgasmUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06489575297453581365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-10554413142449635142010-03-17T11:38:52.871-05:002010-03-17T11:38:52.871-05:00Jim, I hope you and your family will accept my con...Jim, I hope you and your family will accept my condolences. That was a masterful post. Though I look forward to reading stonekettle station every day, I rarely comment. You see, your thoroughness rarely leaves me with any further meaningful contribution.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09578918682897536518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-25451800226915981492010-03-17T09:12:43.102-05:002010-03-17T09:12:43.102-05:00I thought your previous comment was quite intellig...I thought your previous comment was quite intelligible - uh, oh. What does that say about me?Jim Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11259550121437562338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-60255824859221429212010-03-17T09:04:03.221-05:002010-03-17T09:04:03.221-05:00My earlier comment has been rendered partially uni...My earlier comment has been rendered partially unintelligible due to my fat finger, the lateness of posting and Beck's evil henchmen. I humbly apologize.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00648438549121320566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-11476173605710521012010-03-17T05:31:43.722-05:002010-03-17T05:31:43.722-05:00The masses have been manipulated for millennia. Ji...The masses have been manipulated for millennia. Jim’s civil war metaphor is perfect.<br /><br />When Liberals said little Bush and Karl Rove were using the same tactics as the Nazis, there was a media frenzy spinning what they said to mean that little Bush was running the country like Hitler ran Germany, which of course was ludicrous and it was never what they said or meant. I knew exactly what they meant because I’d studied rhetoric and propaganda, and how the Nazis used it to pull off their mighty, world-altering feat. I guarantee you, Karl Rove studied it too, and he probably slept with George Orwell books. <br /><br />Christian Networks beam images of favorite ministers pontificating on stages in front of large stadiums full of congregates, and on their websites, telling followers how to vote and which public officials to support. (All tax free, by the way.)<br /><br />After 30-40 years of media and ministers feeding citizens a steady diet of propaganda and misleading, doublespeak rhetoric, we now have dying people and old people clinging to their Social Security and Medicare while denouncing the government; families believing the government is stealing the land, even as they take their children to state and national parks to go camping; hysterical outrage if the President of the United States wants to give a few minutes Stay in School address to the nation’s school children, and young adults firmly convinced that Christians are the most persecuted people in the country.<br /><br />Jim is absolutely correct when he points out that those clutching their bibles and waving their flags actually know very little about either one and what they stand for. And when fellow citizens try to engage in an active representative democracy, show love for their country and their patriotism by holding its leaders accountable and answerable to the people, the demon-shrieks begin and we come ever so close to the mindless minions breaking out their torches and pitchforks!beemodernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17180046342466780318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-79319688781050218482010-03-17T05:16:01.222-05:002010-03-17T05:16:01.222-05:00I’m sorry about your FIL, and the frustration you ...I’m sorry about your FIL, and the frustration you are suffering too. My sympathy to your wife. <br /><br />My own father died two years ago. He was diagnosed with colon cancer and was gone six months later. It is still a shock for me because it felt so sudden. So my heart goes out to you and your wife as you go through this experience and face your impending loss.beemodernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17180046342466780318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-46682733890634769392010-03-17T00:48:50.135-05:002010-03-17T00:48:50.135-05:00Wow.
My thoughts are with your family.
My other ...Wow.<br /><br />My thoughts are with your family.<br /><br />My other thoughts are wondering -- as they have been for some time now -- what the heck the Left (and, in fact, the sane people on the Right) is/are doing about this. I get the feeling that nobody has yet found a way fight this campaign of fear and misinformation, and it worries me that, well, Glenn Beck's followers VOTE.nzformehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13982194544873836336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-71746622486564612272010-03-16T23:54:49.486-05:002010-03-16T23:54:49.486-05:00Dugg. Nicely done... fabulous indictment.Dugg. Nicely done... fabulous indictment.Jerihttp://smugpuppies.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-64698576746796005672010-03-16T23:22:11.590-05:002010-03-16T23:22:11.590-05:00I keep wondering if there is a way to break throug...I keep wondering if there is a way to break through this awful brainwashing - that results in people denying for themselves what is good for them. What prompts someone to be so disconnected from their own needs. It's like they have a disease for which there is no cure.Celeste Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13846003367367754458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-62331856491071739492010-03-16T22:28:27.195-05:002010-03-16T22:28:27.195-05:00Another great example of the land being owned by t...Another great example of the land being owned by the people is the National Park Service. One guy wanted to own and make money off the Grand Canyon. Now it belongs to and can be enjoyed by every single American in perpetuity. There are National Recreation Areas around the country where people can hunt and fish and boat, places that would otherwise be owned by individuals and you would have to either own that property or pay the guy that does. What in the hell is so gosh darned awesome about SOMEONE ELSE making money at my expense? How do people like Beck manage to sell the idea of other people making loads of money as a patriotic thing? I really don't get it.Anne C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09444051201220766948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-81775798845849261602010-03-16T22:21:01.260-05:002010-03-16T22:21:01.260-05:00Fabulous posting!
"swollen pustule on the ba...Fabulous posting!<br /><br />"swollen pustule on the ball-sack of humanity"<br /><br />"sucks the public dick"<br /><br />Uh Oh, better be careful. Glenn may not be able to spin this and call you unpatriotic or a terrorist but he may be able to expose your (sympathy for) homosexual tendencies!<br /><br />P.S. Just how big is a public dick?TheHusbandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-46973132586233327512010-03-16T22:12:25.103-05:002010-03-16T22:12:25.103-05:00Jim,
Sorry about your father-in-law. Cancer is a...Jim,<br /><br />Sorry about your father-in-law. Cancer is a terrible way to go. I lost my father last month, but he went quickly (heart) ... after a decade or so of Alzheimer's.<br /><br />I don't know your wife, but I wish her well.<br /><br />flyastr = architectural feature. Combination of flying buttress and pilaster.Nick from the O.C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-28090100618981590412010-03-16T22:09:23.007-05:002010-03-16T22:09:23.007-05:00Nevertheless, communism to Guthrie is not the Comm...<em>Nevertheless, communism to Guthrie is not the Communism Beck was alluding to and I doubt that Beck has any understanding of the dynamics of the time and the politics at all.</em><br /><br />Beck has no understanding of <em>any</em> understanding of Communism other than the fact that he and his listeners know <em>it's bad</em>. As you've mentioned elsewhere, it's completely interchangeable with 'fascism', 'totalitarianism', 'socialism', 'marxism', in Beck's lexicon. They're all just bad words to him and his listeners. That's enough.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00648438549121320566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8243351006478134285.post-62955718371691643762010-03-16T22:08:30.148-05:002010-03-16T22:08:30.148-05:00::standiing ovation::
The thing that has constant...::standiing ovation::<br /><br />The thing that has constantly amazed me about the healthcare debate is how these neocons have brainwashed the people who most need and would most benefit from government-run healthcare into fighting tooth and nail against it. Really and truly, the only people who benefit from the current healthcare state are high-level insurance executives. They don't worry about how they'll pay their insurance premiums, if their insurance will drop them if they develop an expensive illness, or how they'll afford theiir copays. And these are legitimate concerns of those who actually have insurance, not the millions who do not (their health insurance is "don't get sick").<br /><br />I don't understand this attitude, and I agree that Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, and the like should put their bodies where their mouths go -- be without insurance and the wherewithal to pay privately. Or sit in the waiting room of a VA ER with their listeners.neurondochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12155027993661209263noreply@blogger.com